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Mode100
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Southbank Maniacs

Postby Mode100 » Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:33 am

I'm relatively new to cycling as a "commute"..... I have a few routes available to me, one of my favorites was the trail along the beach leading up through St Kilda, etc. Unfortunately, this inevitably leads me through the Southbank Promenade area.

I find that heading through Southbank Promenade is dicey at peak times - there are signs everywhere showing a posted speed limit of 10. I try my best to keep to that but I find there are maniacs everywhere around me moving as fast as 25-35km through the area.

On top of the crazy cyclists, there are pedestrians sprawled across the whole promenade, leaving no real pathway for riders to safely pass.

Questions:

1. In a shared zone like that, where is a cyclist legally supposed to ride - (there are people EVERYWHERE)?

2. Anyone aware of any plans to address this chaos? Will they simply ban cycling at some point or maybe they might setup signs for a bike path (I suspect that part of that promenade may be owned by a company, so it can't be) ?

3. How do we stop these cyclists from exhibiting hoonish like behaviour in an extremely crowded space?

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Re: Southbank Maniacs

Postby Gravy » Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:48 am

There are road rules about the use of shared zones however, I don't think that's what this area is; shared zones are for cars as well. I think this is probably a shared path. The distinction is important if you're consulting the road rules as certain rules apply to one or the other.

Mode100 wrote:In a shared zone like that, where is a cyclist legally supposed to ride - (there are people EVERYWHERE)?
If it's a shared path, Rule 242 - keep left and give way to pedestrians.

Ask the council if there are plans to change the layout to a separated footpath.

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Re: Southbank Maniacs

Postby Hardy » Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:53 pm

They can ride anywhere that the pedestrian can walk. The problem is that 95% of off-road bicycle paths in Melbourne are shared with pedestrians. This causes many complaints from pedestrians who think they are good places to take a relaxing stroll. There are a million km of footpaths in Melbourne that cyclists are not permitted to ride yet people still want to walk along a bicycle superhighway like the Yarra Trail etc. The solution is to create more cycle paths and fewer shared paths. Unfortunately the Yarra Promenade section is not amenable to creating a bike only path, and they can’t use a floating path on the river because of shipping. Unless we give a lane of City Rd to cyclists, the only other realistic solution is to elevate a cycleway from Princes Bridge to Webb Bridge. But that might mean knocking over those gas-spewing towers outside the casino.

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Re: Southbank Maniacs

Postby Gravy » Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:52 pm

What about creating a separated path? I.e. with line marking designate a lane for cyclists so pedestrians know to not be in that space.

Or build a tunnel. The state government appears to like tunnels.

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Re: Southbank Maniacs

Postby Hardy » Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:53 pm

Or build a tunnel. The state government appears to like tunnels.

Not sure the pedestrians would use the tunnel though. They seem to prefer walking along cycle paths.

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Re: Southbank Maniacs

Postby Gravy » Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:24 pm

Hardy wrote:Not sure the pedestrians would use the tunnel though. They seem to prefer walking along cycle paths.

:lol: :lol:


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