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Police Officers

Postby Hardy » Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:18 pm

Here's one for you Oscar, Chef etc:
What is the difference between a police officer and a police member in Victoria?

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Re: Police Officers

Postby oscar » Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:40 pm

don't know sean....please do tell

here's one for you though, you'll probably know it....what do you call 1000 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?

saw you on telly the other night....wow 17 years at the bar and that's the advice you give..... :roll:

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Re: Police Officers

Postby Hardy » Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:08 pm

Actually, mine was a serious question.

Ch9 filmed 15 minutes full of wisdoms from 20 years as a barrister and that is all they publish. :cry:

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Re: Police Officers

Postby oscar » Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:35 pm

still waiting for the answer to your riddle.........

always thought they were one in the same......police officer = member of the police force...maybe ask the police association?

why?

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Re: Police Officers

Postby Hardy » Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:22 pm

I'm looking for the legal answer as opposed to the colloquial answer. I think members of the rank of senior sergeant and above are police officers, which is a subset of police members.

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Re: Police Officers

Postby Chef2 » Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:05 pm

An officer is a member at the rank of Inspector and above ie: those who have a "commision" same as the ADF

I'd suggest looking up the Police Regulation Act for the defitions. From memory though, the definition can include unsworn members too.

That will be $300 for my consultation.

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Re: Police Officers

Postby oscar » Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:29 pm

:wink:

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Re: Police Officers

Postby Hardy » Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:07 pm

See: http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/ ... 87/s8.html
Found that this evening.

Also, trawling through the Act saw this:

Police Regulation Act 1958 - SECT 68

Chief Commissioner may dismiss unsuitable members

68. Chief Commissioner may dismiss unsuitable members

(1) The Chief Commissioner, by written order, may dismiss a member of the
force (other than a Deputy Commissioner or an Assistant Commissioner) if the
Chief Commissioner is satisfied that the member is unsuitable to continue as a
member of the force, having regard to-

(a) the member's integrity; and

(b) the potential loss of community confidence in the force were the
member to continue as a member of the force.

and
4. Constitution of the police force
...

(2) The Governor in Council may from time to time appoint so many Deputy
Commissioners (not exceeding four) and so many Assistant Commissioners (not
exceeding ten) as he thinks fit and may from time to time suspend reduce
discharge or dismiss any such Deputy or Assistant Commissioner.


So how did Overland get to dismiss Sir Ken Jones if Sir Ken was appointed more than 1 year ago, and Overland was not the Governor?

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Re: Police Officers

Postby oscar » Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:32 am

o'land didn't dismiss sir ken

he ordered him onto leave up until the date of his resignation that he had already stated

that was a real shame, sir ken was a bloke with integrity and backbone, o'land is a political tool who can't be trusted to sit the right way on a toilet

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Re: Police Officers

Postby Hardy » Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:01 pm

o'land is a political tool

Not any more.

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Re: Police Officers

Postby oscar » Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:55 pm

bye bye simon :D

but who's next ???? :?:

nixon then o'land....we are due a good one by now surely ?

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Re: Police Officers

Postby Comrade Ash » Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:20 am

I'll do it!

Meetings are catered, right?

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Re: Police Officers

Postby suitcaseau » Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:34 pm

All sworn members are police "officers". Inspectors and above are commissioned officers; below that rank they are non-commissioned officers. They are now referred to as "members" because the public servants who work with Vicpol are now referred to as unsworn members. Sworn members are officers because they hold the office of constable under the Crown (which is why they are not regarded as employees when determining vicarious liability).


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